Review of the Dr. Phil Show featuring the Mystery Method & Ross Jeffries

First off, I want to say I was very impressed with Dr. Phil. I thought he would be completely against the concept of the seduction community and the existence of pickup schools teaching men techniques on how to be successful with women. That was absolutely not the case. He actually took a sympathetic position towards the trouble men have meeting women.

The format of the show ran as follows:

1)Video of a Mystery Method Bootcamp along with hidden camera footage of students sarging.

2)Savoy and the Don Interview

3)Interview with girls from the hidden camera footage

4)Ross Jeffries

5)Separate Segment that really was unrelated to the seduction community

The first guests on the show were Savoy and the Don who pitched the Mystery Method in a very positive light, however I do feel that they were not honest in their depiction of their teachings. Dr. Phil asked them if they teach what an F-Close is and they feigned ignorance and then denied teaching such things which is utter nonsense.

After the segment with Savoy and the Don, they had girls from the bar share their opinion of what the Mystery Method was doing and it was generally favorable.

Then it was Ross Jeffries turn. –Cue the Music—


This is where things got a little crazy.

Ross Jeffries claimed he had a bone to pick with the teachings of the Mystery Method, arguing that what they do is dishonest and that they use horrible tactics such as negging and push-pull techniques. Basically he was arguing that he didn’t believe that a man should have to reward or punish a woman based upon her responses to him.

Savoy and the Don did respond effectively to those arguments, but the damage was done. When Dr. Phil asked the girls what they thought of this, they started saying they were creeped out, while before their opinion was that there was no reason men should be criticized for learning this stuff.

At one point Dr. Phil said he really wasn’t so interested in Ross Jeffries criticisms of the Mystery Method and wanted to know more about what he teaches and Dr. Phil really picked apart the language used in Ross Jeffries marketing material that pitches to potential customers that they could sleep with any woman they want.

I really do believe the community was being portrayed in an unbelievably excellent light until Ross Jeffries decided to come out of the shadows. I never had anything against Ross until watching this show. I think he came off as very immature, as though he had a grudge against the Mystery Method and the community would have been better served if he just stayed at home.

Instead of Ross Jeffries being positive and portraying his teachings in a positive light, he decided to criticize the teachings of the rest of the community and the whole thing deteriorated because of it.



April 11, 2008 at 7:45 PM

After reading The Game, that is how I saw Jeffries, as a very critical, bitter person. In The Game, he spews venom about Mystery at Strauss.


April 20, 2008 at 3:44 PM

I know Ross and here are the facts as I see them:

1) he is a very creepy guy who has no friends - he ALWAYS burns bridges and has broken with countless partners and people around him, year after year.

2) his material is, by far, the best and most advanced.

Ross Jeffries

April 23, 2008 at 2:33 AM

I will just allow my work to speak for itself.

Check this out:

And this:

Former suicidal virgin gets laid with 16 women AND bangs a lesbian:

When you can get results like this for YOUR students, you can open your mouth and criticize.



April 23, 2008 at 3:14 AM

At this point I just feel Ross Jeffries is a nitwit.

Seriously, I don't teach, I don't have my own company, I am learning this stuff on my own and applying it on my own. I am entitled to criticize Ross Jeffries whenever I feel like it and he can do diddly squat about it. He posts video interviews of his students claiming results as though that proves a damn thing. Show me a hidden camera video filmed by an independent source of his students going from opening to f-closing and then maybe I will believe his load of shit nonsense.

Instead of wasting his time surfing the internet and criticizing me, Sean Messenger and whoever else is out there, he should be going out there and meeting new people or bettering himself in some way and not acting like a freaking 5 year old having a tantrum because people have a negative opinion of him after he acted like a complete imbecile on national television.