Approaches: Last Saturday's Approaches

I recently began a summer internship and as a result I have not had the energy to focus on making new posts, it is a shame too because I would have had quite a few approach reports to share. My internship is the typical nine to five, five days a week, so it is taking a lot out of me and I’m still adjusting. In the mean time however I would like to share some highlights from my day sarging with Shy Guy, a close friend of mine who I introduced to the community several months ago.

We went out last Saturday and spent several hours in the mall and several hours at a local bar. I setup a hidden microphone on him and have five hours of recording that I still have to go through. Below are three approaches that I would like to share followed by general revelations from the day’s approaches.

Approach # 1: 2 Set

Details

This was Shy Guy’s first set of the day, so I’m not going to go into as much detail as I do my sets. It was a two set. Shy Guy and I were leaning against a railing, he opened with this Kate Perry Routine (it is an opinion opener) and I disappeared (as per his request before hand) and entered the set when he gave me a physical signal. When I entered the set he introduced me and then looked at his target and made a comment about never getting her name, she said she never gave it and felt that this was a setup, they laughed and walked off.

Lessons Learned

It is fine to enter into a wing’s set if you did not begin in close proximity with each other, however if you did, open the set together otherwise it will come off as unnatural and the set will pick up on this and will be weirded out.

Approach # 2: Shy Guy’s Hired Gun

Description

Hired Gun working a small stand for creams and lotions in the mall

Rating

6 - Attractive

Opener

Me: “You look like you can’t wait to get out of here, I saw you looking at your watch twice.”
Her: [Confusion]
Me: “What is with the low energy, you’re even drinking coffee and it doesn’t look like it is doing a thing for you.”

Transition

Her: “Come here I want to show you something”
Me: “I’m not buying anything from you.”

Kino

Yes, tons.

Close

None

Details

Shy Guy insisted that I approach one of the two hired guns working this stand at the mall. The first time I walked by, the target did not open me. The second time I decided I would open her. I walked directly towards her and made eye contact. She was looking at her watch at first, looked up, made eye contact, looked back down at her watch and then when she looked up again she saw I was looking at her and smiling, she smiled back and waved me to come to her. I opened and the interaction was transitioned with the above. I made it very clear to her that I was not buying any of her products. I controlled the frame of the interaction. Shy Guy came in and said something along the lines of, “So, I see you’ve met my friend.” To me, this was a big mistake. It made it appear that my approach was set up and it also lowered my value dramatically due to his prior unsuccessful attempts at interacting with the two hired guns at this stand. However he moved to interact with the other hired gun and I interacted with the target. There was lots of banter and lots of kino. I was generating good amounts of attraction and I locked myself in by sitting on her chair. An issue came when I said she was a “goof.” She didn’t know what that means and I refused to explain it to her so she asked Shy Guy and Shy Guy misinterpreted this to be an approach invitation to join our interaction. From that point on he kept coming back into our interaction which interrupted my flow and prevented me from number closing.

Lessons Learned

When your wing is isolated with a target, DO NOT interfere with the interaction. Remove yourself from the location.

When dealing with hired guns, break their routine immediately and control the frame.
Dismiss anything the hired gun says about their products or any attempt they make and reframing the interaction.

Approach # 3: Are They Too Young to Approach?

Description

2 Girls at Hot Topic in the Mall

Rating

6 – Attractive (Both)

Opener

Me: “Excuse me, I know this may sound odd, but how old are the two of you?”

Transition

None

Kino

Kino Open, Elbow Touch

Close

None

Details

The goal of the day was for me to assign targets to Shy Guy and he approach. However, every so often he gets hang ups about approaching a selected set/target. One issue he has raised a couple of times was that the target looked too young. My view is that you as an aspiring PUA need to separate yourself from expectations of the outcome. Your goal is to just be a social person who can talk to anyone, not that you are trying to tap the ass of any girl you speak with. If you are just being social and she turns out to be a bit under age, you did nothing wrong and shouldn’t feel guilty. If you are approaching with the mind set you are picking her up, of course you will probably feel guilty.

Anyway, he refused to approach this set and actually left the store. I walked out of the store, asked him what the issue was, he said they were too young, I got annoyed and went into the store and opened. One was 17, one was 16. For those of you that are not aware, 17 is the legal age of consent in New York. Therefore, one of the two were not “too young.” And even if they were both 13, who cares? Remember, the goal is to be social, not to sleep with them, if there is a connection with someone you are being social with, you take it from there, if not you eject, remember, no expectations or attachment to the outcome.

For those who are curious, I just ejected after getting their answers. I had no desire to remain in set, even though they both seemed interested. I was just making a point to Shy Guy.

Lessons Learned

Just approach to be social, not to be attached to the outcome and have a hidden agenda to sleep with the target you approached. This removes a ton of pressure on approaching and interacting.

Approach # 4: Bar Chick

Description

6 Set in a Local Bar

Rating

6 – Attractive (Target)

Opener

Me: “What kind of trouble are you guys causing?”

Transition

Me: “How do you guys know each other?”

Kino

Yes, plenty of light touching

Close

None

Details

At the bar a beach ball was being thrown back and forth. At one point I got pegged in the head. I look over and I see a set of girls giggling and looking embarrassed and I knew one of them threw the ball. I walked directly up to them and began teasing them for throwing the ball at me. I then selected a target and semi-isolated her within the group. I built attraction, kino, shifted into comfort and then another guy that knew her entered the set. By this point all but two other girls from the original set remained. I was about to introduce myself to the guy to pacify him when Shy Guy came around to the side of me and my target. This distracted me. I told him to go to the other side of me and then introduced myself to the guy that joined the set and then introduced Shy Guy. At that point though I lost too much momentum and the target told me she was going outside to go smoke. I believe she was still interested and looked over at me a few times during the night, but I never reinitiated conversation, I wasn’t in the mood.

Lessons Learned

Wings need to assess the situation before entering into a set. They need to recognize if they can first who the target is and where physically they should enter the set from. Improper entry into a set can cause issues.

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